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1875 Map of Region

Two names

At the time, it was believed that lac Pemichangan was part of lac Des-Trente-Et-Un-Mile(thirty-one-mile lake), that's why it was named Papenegeang(long lake). Pemichangan means eau claire/clear water.

Posted by Bruno Venne on Tue 08 Mar 2011 05:08:25 AM PST

1875 Map of Region

Lac Papenegeang

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Lac PAPENEGEANG ou Grand Lac. Ce nom double se trouve sur:
Map of the Western Part of the Province of Quebec Canada, by Eugene Taché, Assistant Commissioner Crown Land Dept. Quebec, 1874.
J'ai cette carte et je l'ai montrée à Elaine Isabelle.
Il s'agit de l'ensemble de ce qu'on appelle maintenant le lac des Trente et un Milles et le lac Pemichangan.
Sur deux autres cartes anciens, j'ai vu L. Papenegegeangou, évidemment des copies erronées de la carte de Taché, pour le même ensemble.

La toponymie des Algonquins, Jean-Claude Fortin, 1999, 178 pages, donne Lac PAPENEGOEGAWONG,31J/04 46°12’ 75°49' VN, pour le Lac des Trente et Un Milles.

J’ai vu chez un antiquaire à Toronto deux cartes: Timberlands map, sheet 3, 1875, de Jules Taché, où il y a le «Lac PAPENEGENAN» (pour les lacs 31 Milles et Pemichangan ensemble) et Timberlands map, sheet 4, 1875, de A.J.Russell, où il y a le même lac avec le nom «Grand Lake».

La Commission de toponomie du...

Lac PAPENEGEANG ou Grand Lac. Ce nom double se trouve sur:
Map of the Western Part of the Province of Quebec Canada, by Eugene Taché, Assistant Commissioner Crown Land Dept. Quebec, 1874.
J'ai cette carte et je l'ai montrée à Elaine Isabelle.
Il s'agit de l'ensemble de ce qu'on appelle maintenant le lac des Trente et un Milles et le lac Pemichangan.
Sur deux autres cartes anciens, j'ai vu L. Papenegegeangou, évidemment des copies erronées de la carte de Taché, pour le même ensemble.

La toponymie des Algonquins, Jean-Claude Fortin, 1999, 178 pages, donne Lac PAPENEGOEGAWONG,31J/04 46°12’ 75°49' VN, pour le Lac des Trente et Un Milles.

J’ai vu chez un antiquaire à Toronto deux cartes: Timberlands map, sheet 3, 1875, de Jules Taché, où il y a le «Lac PAPENEGENAN» (pour les lacs 31 Milles et Pemichangan ensemble) et Timberlands map, sheet 4, 1875, de A.J.Russell, où il y a le même lac avec le nom «Grand Lake».

La Commission de toponomie du Québec ne donne pas la traduction du nom Algonquin. Mon ami William Commanda m'a dit que son père parlait du lac comme KAKINOGAMACK: plan d'eau grand en longueur. Pour le nom Algonquin qu'on trouve sur les cartes, il dit seulement que le début de l'expression, PAPI- peut signifier laughing or smiling. Il dit que PEMICHANGAN signifie lac de travers (à traverser) ou Cross Lake.

Posted by Theodore Geraets on Fri 12 Nov 2010 01:28:30 PM PST

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McPherson's

Randy...not sure you remember me...but I have lost your Mother's email address (new computer and I didn't back up )...we are headed for your parents area and wanted to alert her before we just phoned and said . "we are here "..you can check us out with her before you act on this, I know you can't be too sure of aanything these days..Will also tell you that we have enjoyed the pictures and memories of the lake....fantastic array...
Sharon McPherson

Posted by Sharon McPherson on Tue 28 Sep 2010 03:13:57 PM PDT

1875 Map of Region

Lac Papaenegang

It's a bit anticlimatic to learn that the the beautiful "pemichangan" or "papaenegang" (equally nice) meant, according to this translantion, nothing more than "that long lake" or "the big lake".

Frankly, I was hoping for something more romantic, along the lines of "the lake of deep fresh waters", or "the lake of a hundred bays", or the "lake of resting eagles".

Somehow, I can't help but doubt the veracity of that translation. Perhaps we can find a better source somewhere.



Posted by marc patry on Tue 25 May 2010 05:14:59 AM PDT

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Hi,

Thanks for putting up this site. Very helpful!











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Posted by William John on Wed 07 Oct 2009 10:01:44 PM PDT

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lac pemichangan cottage for sale

Just wanted to let you know we have a cottage for sale on a prime piece of lakefront property, a large log cottage. Should you know of anyone interested.

Julie

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Posted by julie macarthur on Thu 07 May 2009 08:25:55 AM PDT

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Reply to living at the lake

Butch,

Hi there.

First let's clear something up - my name is not machel (who is called machel???? (joke)) but Michele and I remember you coming up at the lake - you probably knew my brother Jean (John) and not Marc - Jean is three years youunger than me -Marc is six years younger - always wondered what happened to your family...I still go up and even bought a little cottage. Every now and then people form very long ago come up - it's great - you should try it!

Randy and Vivian, This is so nice - I've lost touch with so many people that come up to the cottage when I was young - perhaps now we'll all reconnect thanks to your site!

Michele Patry, Montreal, Quebec

Posted by michele patry on Mon 23 Mar 2009 03:06:52 AM PDT

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Today

Dear Randy and Vivian,

Last november(2007) during the hunting season I took pictures of the place as it is today. Some are from the roads around, the big island, the lake and the camps including yours. I would like to send them to you but I don't know if the e-mail address that you gave me is still good cause I sent you that message a couple of times with that address and you never answered me back. Please let me know if you want them and how to send them to you!

Bruno Venne(Bermain Knight's grandson)

Posted by Bruno Venne on Tue 23 Sep 2008 01:53:47 PM PDT

The Martin/Black family photos, 1920s to 1950s

today

Dear Vivian and Randy,
Last fall i took pics of the place as it is today when I went hunting. I'd be glad to add them up to your collection if you like. Send me an e-mail at [removed] if you are interested.
Bruno

Posted by Bruno Venne on Wed 06 Aug 2008 01:27:22 PM PDT

1951:  Winter view of the Phillips' place and the Martin's from lake

Phillips' Place

You could call this picture 'The Phillips' Place'

Posted by Wanda J. Taylor (was Hoover) on Wed 05 Mar 2008 01:28:16 PM PST

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