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1875 Map of Region

Two names

At the time, it was believed that lac Pemichangan was part of lac Des-Trente-Et-Un-Mile(thirty-one-mile lake), that's why it was named Papenegeang(long lake). Pemichangan means eau claire/clear water.

Posted by Bruno Venne on Tue 08 Mar 2011 05:08:25 AM PST

1875 Map of Region

Lac Papenegeang

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Lac PAPENEGEANG ou Grand Lac. Ce nom double se trouve sur:
Map of the Western Part of the Province of Quebec Canada, by Eugene Taché, Assistant Commissioner Crown Land Dept. Quebec, 1874.
J'ai cette carte et je l'ai montrée à Elaine Isabelle.
Il s'agit de l'ensemble de ce qu'on appelle maintenant le lac des Trente et un Milles et le lac Pemichangan.
Sur deux autres cartes anciens, j'ai vu L. Papenegegeangou, évidemment des copies erronées de la carte de Taché, pour le même ensemble.

La toponymie des Algonquins, Jean-Claude Fortin, 1999, 178 pages, donne Lac PAPENEGOEGAWONG,31J/04 46°12’ 75°49' VN, pour le Lac des Trente et Un Milles.

J’ai vu chez un antiquaire à Toronto deux cartes: Timberlands map, sheet 3, 1875, de Jules Taché, où il y a le «Lac PAPENEGENAN» (pour les lacs 31 Milles et Pemichangan ensemble) et Timberlands map, sheet 4, 1875, de A.J.Russell, où il y a le même lac avec le nom «Grand Lake».

La Commission de toponomie du...

Lac PAPENEGEANG ou Grand Lac. Ce nom double se trouve sur:
Map of the Western Part of the Province of Quebec Canada, by Eugene Taché, Assistant Commissioner Crown Land Dept. Quebec, 1874.
J'ai cette carte et je l'ai montrée à Elaine Isabelle.
Il s'agit de l'ensemble de ce qu'on appelle maintenant le lac des Trente et un Milles et le lac Pemichangan.
Sur deux autres cartes anciens, j'ai vu L. Papenegegeangou, évidemment des copies erronées de la carte de Taché, pour le même ensemble.

La toponymie des Algonquins, Jean-Claude Fortin, 1999, 178 pages, donne Lac PAPENEGOEGAWONG,31J/04 46°12’ 75°49' VN, pour le Lac des Trente et Un Milles.

J’ai vu chez un antiquaire à Toronto deux cartes: Timberlands map, sheet 3, 1875, de Jules Taché, où il y a le «Lac PAPENEGENAN» (pour les lacs 31 Milles et Pemichangan ensemble) et Timberlands map, sheet 4, 1875, de A.J.Russell, où il y a le même lac avec le nom «Grand Lake».

La Commission de toponomie du Québec ne donne pas la traduction du nom Algonquin. Mon ami William Commanda m'a dit que son père parlait du lac comme KAKINOGAMACK: plan d'eau grand en longueur. Pour le nom Algonquin qu'on trouve sur les cartes, il dit seulement que le début de l'expression, PAPI- peut signifier laughing or smiling. Il dit que PEMICHANGAN signifie lac de travers (à traverser) ou Cross Lake.

Posted by Theodore Geraets on Fri 12 Nov 2010 01:28:30 PM PST

1875 Map of Region

Lac Papaenegang

It's a bit anticlimatic to learn that the the beautiful "pemichangan" or "papaenegang" (equally nice) meant, according to this translantion, nothing more than "that long lake" or "the big lake".

Frankly, I was hoping for something more romantic, along the lines of "the lake of deep fresh waters", or "the lake of a hundred bays", or the "lake of resting eagles".

Somehow, I can't help but doubt the veracity of that translation. Perhaps we can find a better source somewhere.



Posted by marc patry on Tue 25 May 2010 05:14:59 AM PDT

The Martin/Black family photos, 1920s to 1950s

today

Dear Vivian and Randy,
Last fall i took pics of the place as it is today when I went hunting. I'd be glad to add them up to your collection if you like. Send me an e-mail at [removed] if you are interested.
Bruno

Posted by Bruno Venne on Wed 06 Aug 2008 01:27:22 PM PDT

1951:  Winter view of the Phillips' place and the Martin's from lake

Phillips' Place

You could call this picture 'The Phillips' Place'

Posted by Wanda J. Taylor (was Hoover) on Wed 05 Mar 2008 01:28:16 PM PST

1950:  Moose crossing lake.

Late 50's

I remember this - so it had to be ~ '58 (assuming I was 4 or 5) - WT

Posted by Wanda J. Taylor (was Hoover) on Wed 05 Mar 2008 01:25:53 PM PST

1947:  Framework of new Martin cottage with school house in back.

Foreground Cottage

... and the cottage in the foreground was the Phillips'

Posted by Wanda J. Taylor (was Hoover) on Wed 05 Mar 2008 01:22:56 PM PST

1940s:  Mildred McPherson and Wanda Martin.

The cottage on the far left

...and, if my perspective is correct, the cottage on the far left is the one I now own, which was originally owned by the mayor of Westerville, Ohio.
-WT

Posted by Wanda J. Taylor (was Hoover) on Wed 05 Mar 2008 01:19:01 PM PST

1937: Robataille and farmhouse.

Question - Robataille First Owner?

This is clearly my uncle's cottage - was Robataille the first owner?

Posted by Wanda J. Taylor (was Hoover) on Wed 05 Mar 2008 01:16:24 PM PST

1935:  The Martin shack and half of Philips/Robataille.

The log cottage in the background

...belonged to my aunt and uncle, Mae and Roy Phillips, then from Hickory Corners, PA.

Posted by Wanda J. Taylor (was Hoover) on Wed 05 Mar 2008 01:13:52 PM PST

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